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Best option for long lasting stain on new build pressure treated deck aged 2 months
Defy Extreme Stain.
Will the ultra be somewhat slick when it rains compared to the extreme? Is the ultra just as easy to recoat after a few years as the extreme? Thanks!
Extreme would have less of a chance of being slippery. Recoating is the same.
Thanks!
Hi, ) Can either Extreme or Ultra be applied with a spray gun? 2) Also, since Ultra has silicone in it, does it peel or wear out in a different way? 3) Finally, is Ultra easier to maintain (I find that with Extreme, by the time green algae bits at removed from the deck, part of the stain is gone as well and I end up having to strip, very two years.)? Many thanks
1. Yes they can.
2. Since it films on the wood, it can be more prone to wearing.
3. No, Extreme is easier.
What is the difference between defy essential and defy extreme?
Extreme is a higher grade version of stain.
I have a new redwood deck. Can I apply the Defy stain immediately? Do I need to prep the wood?
https://www.deckstain.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains
But we are going into winter…no coating before winter? Seems like coating it now might be best given the impending rains. What can go wrong if I stain it now?
Yes, leave until Spring. This is normal. Do not stain now.
I have a fence and pergola that are almost 20 years old. I used Defy cleaner, brighter and Light Walnut semi-transparent stain after one year of weathering. I repeated the same process several years later.
It now needs another maintenance coat. I’m prepared to do the same thing again. Is cleaner still the way to go or is stripping advised instead? That seems much costlier and more labor intensive. But I’m wondering which is going to give me the best results the third time around…and why?
Post some pics.
Hello, I have used Ready Seal, a redwood color, for the past 15 years on my Brazilian Hardwood deck. I recently discovered it is no longer being sold in CA because it is oil-based. I want to do the right thing for the environment, but it took me a long time to find a product that works well. Past products had Polyuritane or something that made the deck slippery, sticky, and plastic-looking. It took forever to strip it. I want to avoid that happening. I’ve been reading about your product and want to know, which product you suggest I use of yours that would be similar and yet better for the environment?
Defy stains are much better than Ready Seal. Strip and brighen for prep and then apply the Defy Extreme Stain.
what is the difference between extreme and ultra?
Ultra will have more of a sheen when dried.
1. Wait 48 hours after prep to stain. Stain within 2 weeks.
2. Within 20-60 minutes of the first coat.
3. Yes.
4. Yes
5. Welcome
I have a 7 yr old pine deck that has been stained twice with Defy deck stain for hardwoods. I need to get more, but want to understand difference between Extreme Stain and Hardwood Stain?
Sticking with the same Hardwood Stain and Color would be best.
looking to stain an ipe deck that is about 10 y.o and stained each year since install. Constantly looking for better stain. Defy ultra vs extreme? What color to keep the natural ipe mahogany color? Also does the ultra film on top as noted on prior thread?
You need Defy Hardwood Stain. Do not use the Ultra on hardwoods.
https://www.deckstain.com/defy-hardwood-stain.html
I am building a roof structure to accommodate a standing seam metal roof. I bought all KDAT treated pine lumber. Since it is completely dry, what process do I need to follow for use of your Extreme product?
Please see this article: https://www.deckstain.com/kdat-and-defy-wait-period-for-new-wood
I have a rough cedar porch previously stained with an oil base stain that now has black mold that makes the wood look dark and dirty. The mold seems to come back about 1-2 years after cleaning and restraining. I have read that oil base stains can make mold grow back quicker. Which products would be best to use to clean and restrain my porch and resist mold from returning?
Prep with the Defy Stripper and then the Defy Brightener. Stain with Defy Extreme when done.
In one place in your information it says to use defy hardwood stain for the cedar. It’s confusing. Can you clarify?
Use the Extreme for this.
Which is the best semitransparent stain to block mold from returning on rough cedar wood?
The Defy Extreme Stain.
Can Defy Extreme be applied over Defy Ultra? House was just stained using Ultra. Thank you
No, it cannot.
What’s the difference between defy extreme and defy ultra stains. I have a 7-yr old deck I previously applied defy extreme to. I have given it a light sanding and used Defy clean. Will the ultra work the same as extreme on that?
Use the Extreme when reapplying.
Thx! What situations would you recommend the ultra for? I have some on hand I don’t want to go to waste.
I am looking to stain my new white pine siding on my cabin. The goal is to seal it, add some light color and prevent the greying. Ultra or Extreme? One coat or two?
Defy Extreme. See here about new wood: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
I used to use Biowash ‘Clear tone’; is that now a different name? or is just not available anymore?
That is not available anymore. Closest would be the Defy Extreme in Natural Tone: https://www.deckstain.com/wood-restoration/wood-and-deck-stains/defy-extreme.html
Is the Defy Extreme Semi-transparent grey a warm tone or cool tone?
Cool but color varies based on wood type and age of the wood.
What is difference between Defy Extreme and Defy Ultra Extreme? Which is best on new pressured treated pine decking?
Best would be the Defy Extreme for newer wood.
Thank you. But what is the difference between the Defy Extreme and the Ultra Extreme?
The Extreme is the version that has been around for a long time. Ultra is brand new and will film more on top of the wood. We would suggest the Extreme for you and your new wood. Better penetration.
Thank you for your prompt reply.
I have a new pine deck, never been treated. If I use 2 coats Extreme stain in natural pine, how long can I reasonably expect it to last? The deck is 2 stories off the ground, so it’s not something I want to be re-staining every year…
Every 2-3 years is normal.
CAN THE SEMI TRANSPARENT COLORS BE MIXED? i.e. If I wanted to mix the driftwood grey color with light walnut to produce a customized color, can I do that?
Yes, you can.
Two years ago we put boiled linseed oil half and half with thinner on our redwood deck. Do we need to do something to it before we stain with Defy Stain redwood color?
You will need to strip and brighten for prep to remove the linseed oil.
thanks to all the answers we received, we will get a strip and brighten before we use the stain.
i have a new deck around my above ground pool, built in Dec 2020. we live in North Central Ohio, so we get all kinds of weather. it is pressure treated lumber. i think it ready to stain. It is in full sun and we have railings. My wife wants to apply White stain to the Railing, then Gray to the deck floor. Also beneath the deck floor, we have treated lumber to act as skirting for toy storage and etc. Me question is what would you sugeest for the spindles, the top railing, and the skirting, and for the deck itself?
Sorry, but we do not offer a white stain in the Defy line. We do have a Driftwood Gray color.
https://www.deckstain.com/wood-restoration/wood-and-deck-stains/defy-extreme.html
Hello,I would like to freshen up the finish on our pergola after 2.5 years of sun,rain, and claw marks from cats. We like the color and wouldn’t mind it being a little darker also know the posts will have to be sanded and probably won’t match the canopy well but that’s what we get for having cats. Question to you is how do I refinish this easily with what products and how often should I treat it for long term preventive maintenance?
Thanks
What stain brand do you have on there now?
Not really sure the contractor that installed the patio also purchased the pergola but the wood appears to be pine and the stain is not real deep in the wood looking at the cat scratches.
You will have to remove it fully first before using the Defy Stain. Defy Stain Stripper and pressure washing to remove. Defy Brightener after.
Okay I’ve got all that but to achieve a similar color what would you suggest for the final product to use?
Butternut color would be closest.
I have 2 projects. What is best for each? 1. An older and unmaintained deck, believe it is PT pine, with a peeling solid reddish stain. 325 sq. ftAlso, a 6 year old cedar swing set with only the manufacturer’s (Backyard Discovery) applied stain (they say it is a thin water based stain)
You would remove both stains. Teh solid stain will need to be sanded off. Then clean and brighten for final prep. Strip and brighten for the swing set. Once all is prepped, use the Defy Extreme Stain.
Do you no longer manufacture the Defy Extreme SOLID? If i use the solid, can I avoid sanding? I see this for sale, but not on this website
Not sold online as the colors are custom made.
Hi, we have one coat of defy extreme on our pressure treated pine deck. It was stained 3 years ago. We plan to clean and brighten. The current stain has held up well but it is worn now. I plan to order a different color this time. Can I apply the new color over the old? I realize the color may not be uniform, but we would really like to avoid stripping the current stain if we can apply a new color over the old. Going from light walnut to butternut. Also, if the answer is yes, should we apply 1 coat or 2 of the new stain? Thank you!
You will need to strip and brighten, so it performs correctly in your case. Two coats.
Can I use the Marine stain on top of the extreme. I used Extreme cedar last year and I need to put on another coat this year. I live on the Oregon coast.
Best to stick with the Extreme. No advantage to switch.
I bought the 5 gallon Defy Water Repellent for Bricks and it worked great on front and back porches. I have about 3 gallons left over and would like to use some of it to try and fix a leak in my shower. The entire shower, including the pan area and curb, is all porcelain tile (not glossy, looks like large squares of stone) with Mapei grout. I have removed all silicone caulk. I would like to apply this Defy Water Repellent for Bricks along the perimeter grout lines and apply on the curb, including the tile. I’m sure the Defy will impregnate the grout, but will it also adhere and bond to the surface of the porcelain tile on the curb. I am not applying on any other surface of the tile as I am concerned it will be too slippery on the floor. Also, do I apply the Defy before I re-apply 100% silicone caulk or after. I’m thinking applying on top of caulk may provide overall better water protection of the surfaces, but I’m concerned it may deteriorate caulk instead. Thanks!
Sorry but it will not work for this scenario. None of our products will.
Hello, over new wood, should two coats of crystal clear be applied? If yes, how (after it dries?)
Can you apply the exterior clear inside as well?
See here about new wood: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
You can use it inside.
I meant light walnut and clear (50/50)
I would like a light brown tone (no yellow, no red, no dark tones)….will mixing light brown and clear 50/50 give me that result? (exterior ceiling and siding virgin never stained woods)
Sorry but no, that would not work.
I have a new cedar deck. We waited 2 months and used defy cleaner and brightener. Then we applied Defy Extreme Clear Semi-transparent Wood Stain with 1 coat. It’s too light for us so we would like to use a coat of Defy Cedartone Semi-transparent Wood Stain. Can we apply that over the Clear?
No, you would have to remove it with the Defy Stripper and then the Brightener.
Do I follow wet on wet on a new PT deck?
Just one coat for new wood: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
We would like to stain our white cedar shake siding with a white or grey stain to give them an aged look,
similar to bleaching oil, but in with a water based synthetic resin. Can the Defy Extreme be tinted with white pigment to achieve this look?
No, only the stock colors that we have.
Do you have any other semi transparent synthetic resin stains
that will accept a custom tint?
No, we do not.
Does defy simi transparent stain have a sheen or is it flat?
No shine.
How many sq ft does concrete paver sealer cover
About 100-150 sq feet per gallon.
what product could be used on a screened in porch ceiling. It is wainscoting and appears to have nothing on it. We cleaned it and would like to get something on it to protect it in the future. Kentucky has high humidity so anything with mold/mildew protection would be a plus
Use the Defy Extreme Stain.
Does Defy Extreme come in semi-solid…it’s for rough-side cedar clapboard siding.
It does not.
i would like to purchase defy extreme solid color stain but cannot find any information on the website?! is it still available??
The Defy Extreme Solid Stain is not sold on this website since it has to be custom mixed at a paint store.
We have recently completed cleaning and used the Defy Wood Brightener product on our rough cedar siding house. The cedar is clapboard (long horizontal pieces) and not shake or shingle. I am trying to figure out which product to use as the final step? We like the color of the wood as is and do not necessarily need to change the color or stain the wood a different color, BUT are not opposed to using a matching stain if that is a better product then just sealing?
It seems I have read that using a sealer does not last as long or provide as much protection as a stain does for long term – is that correct?
Which of your products would you recommend using as the final step for our rough cedar siding house?
Thank you!
For best results, you need a tinted stain color over a clear sealer. The UV protection is much better. 3-4 times better. Use the Defy Extreme Stain in one of the tinted colors for best results.
Line in Northern Ohio. Preeure treated deck was installed Spring of 2018. We did nothing to the deck to this point because of the fresh wood. Now would like to finish. What would be your recommendation?
Prep with the Defy Wood Cleaner and then the Defy Brightener. Stain with the Defy Extreme.
We have a pressure treated pine dock/deck at our home on the Texas coast. The deck was installed December 2017, and Thompson’s Clear was applied in March 2018. The sealer has already worn off in less than a year and the deck boards are weathering and absorbing water. No beading is present. I’m looking for a new more durable performer that will hopefully last longer than a year/season.
I pressure washed the deck today (Feb 3 2019) to prepare for a new sealer/waterproofer and this did seem to refresh the wood. What products would you recommend for our job which is about 500 SF? We would like a light stain color this time rather than straight clear especially if it will help with UV resistance. Do we need to strip and brighten? The wood is still in very good condition after pressure washing.
Thank you for any advice.
For the prep, you should strip and brighten the wood. This will ensure proper penetration of the stain into the wood grain. Use the Defy Extreme Stain. Try Natural Pine color:
https://www.deckstain.com/wood-restoration/wood-and-deck-stains/defy-extreme.html
We just cleaned, sanded and sealed our 25 year old 12’ by 14’ screen porch floor. We used your stripper and brightener and then sanded the floor before applying two coats of the Defy semi transparent finish (butternut) wet on wet as instructed. Looks really nice, but we would like one or two of the boards to be a bit darker. Can I sand those boards and the restain them? Any other solutions?
Thank you
It is the wood grain of each individual boards that determine the final colors. Sanding and redoing them will most likely end up with the exact same results.
What product should I use for white oak porch decking?
Use the Defy Hardwood stain.
Thank you. That is what I figured. Do you have better color chips than what’s online? Or bigger pictures of them?
We do not but we have samples: https://www.deckstain.com/defy-stain-samples.html
How long does shipping usually take? I live in Pennsylvania
2-3 business days.
My deck is 10 years old and havw used Defy stain 2 times. It is now time for another coating. Will I need the stain stripper after the deck cleaner. I have shaded areas also
Stripper and then the brightener. No need for the cleaner.
I have stripped a cedar shingle house to bare wood and planning to use Defy Extreme. How long should I expect the product to last before needing another coat? Do I need to strip the shingles again at that point?
On vertical wood, the Defy should last 4-8 years. Depends on UV exposure. Just clean and reapply when needed.
[quote name=”Darla K”]Which product would be best for new red cedar siding? Thank you
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Use the Defy Extreme Stain
Which product would be best for new red cedar siding? Thank you
Northwestern Pennsylvania